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Welcome to to Ask Good Questions Podcasts, broadcasting live every Wednesday,
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six pm Eastern Time on W four CY Radio at
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W four cy dot com. This week and every week,
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we will reach for a higher purpose in money and life,
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as well as a focus on health and wellnent. Now,
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let's join your host, Anita bell Anderson, as together we
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start with Asking Good Questions.
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Hello, and welcome to the Ask Good Questions Podcast. I
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am your host, Benita bell Anderson. I'm so happy that
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you are here today with us. Today we are going
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to have a wonderful conversation today about I believe everyone
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should be listening to this because this is going to
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apply to everyone who has a body. And so with that,
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I'd like to invite my guest to the podcast stage.
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Her name is Jenna Jamile is a Jamile, Jamail, Jamail Jamail,
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and Jana.
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Welcome, Thank you, thank you so much for having me.
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Yeah, so let me tell you a little bit about
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this girl. She's a certified nutrition specialist with a clinical
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focus on functional nutrition, applied neuroscience, and the gut brain connection.
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We have got some really amazing things to talk about today.
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Her work centers on complex chronic health concerns including neuroinflammation, inflammation,
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digestive dysfunction, environmental exposures, and immune related conditions where nutrition
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can play an important adject role alongside conventional care. So
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she brings research and clinical perspectives to the table and
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including she's done some work on get this transcranial photo bimodulation.
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Now I would not have known before that that was
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red light therapy because I have done some red light therapy,
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and so I'm really interested to hear what she has
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to say about that. And there's some potentials there for
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mental health support, which is interesting. Her approach emphasizes practical,
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evidence informed strategies set that consider the nervous system, detoxification pathways,
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gut health, and you know, just a lot of different
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things that She's also a parent of AUDHD child. I
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don't know, Jenn if i'd ever heard of that. I've
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heard of, you know, the other like autism stuff, but
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that was interesting to you know, so you've you've got
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in home practice with all of this stuff as well.
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So so she provides clinical professional consultations designed to help
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listeners and to help people better understand potential root contributors,
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which I think is what I really always am looking
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at to find is what's the root cause. So with that,
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I'd like to just say, is there anything else you'd
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like to add to that?
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If that's really hard to remember for the audience, I'm
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a neuro nutritionist. You can just walk away with that knowledge.
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And before I met j I didn't. I didn't even
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know there was such a thing. But I think that
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is like so important. So so you you know, in
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our title we talked about hidden health Gremlins, and I
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think of the movie Gremlins and these little guys, you know,
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running around just causing mischief all over the place. That's
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kind of how I feel about that. Our in our body.
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So why do you see that could be categorized as
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a gremlin in our body that sabotages our health without
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you even realizing it.
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Okay, So you know how in the Gremlin movie they
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say don't feed the gremlins after midnight and don't get
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the gremlins wet. Okay, So I feel like there's kind
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of that applicability to our life as well, where it's like,
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don't eat all the processed foods, don't eat a ton
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of sugar. So I feel like that's kind of the
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correlation there with the same thing with the gremlins. But
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the the reason that is is it's not necessarily the
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body can't handle those things. It's what is the body
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having to go through and do in order to process
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those things, and is it diminishing other areas of your health?
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So if it's focusing on processing all of like the
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chemicals and processed foods, what's going on with your immune
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system on the other side, and what do those chemicals
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do in the body. So it's kind of like a
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twofold effect where you eat the processed food, you get
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the grumlin wet. Then they turn crazy now on the
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immune system.
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So we're going to talk a lot about chronic stress
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and weight loss, and that's something that I've personally been
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interested in. And so what's the biggest mixed misconception around
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you know, the whole thing around stress and people feeling
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stuck when it comes to weight loss.
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So I think the first thing with chronic stress is
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people don't really understand how much they're stressed. I think
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it's kind of like a frog and a pot where
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the stress builds and you get to a place where
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you're so overly stressed you don't even notice how stressed
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out you are. And it can take kind of like
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a huge difference in your entire mental health to be like, oh,
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there's something going on here, maybe I need to make
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some changes in my life. And it can take a
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long time to get out of stress. But what a
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lot of people don't understand is when you're in chronic stress,
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you have a spike in a hormone called cortisol. Most
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people have heard of cortisol. Cortisol is great actually for you.
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When it's low, it helps you fall asleep. When it
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gets higher, it helps you wake up. When it gets
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really high, it puts you into fight or flight. It
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helps with adrenaline that your focus, you can protect yourself
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when you're in chronic stress. You're constantly spiking that adrenaline
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in fight or flight. And what people don't know is
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that actually triggers neuroinflammation, because when you have too much
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cortisol in the brain, you're actually creating an inflammatory environment
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for your brain cells, and so that can lead to
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more depress that can lead to more anxiety, that can
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lead to changes in gut health, and it can also
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weaken your immune system. And so a lot of people
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get to a place where they're watching the news, they're
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doomscrolling social media, they're just ingesting too much visually. That
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is stressing them out, and their nervous system is going
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haywire because we're not really designed to be that connected
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and seeing that much action. In all of that, our
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cortisol is supposed to be really sensitive for really scary moments,
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and we're we can expose ourselves to a lot of
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scary moments without completing the anxiety loop of I'm okay,
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I'm safe. All of that can come down. So it
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has a multitude of effects, but it definitely affects your gut,
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your brain, and your immune system.
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So you're basically saying that we can be running on
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stress hormones and not even know it.
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Oh, absolutely, and most people do think about it this way.
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So if you're gaining weight all the time and you
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have no idea that you're stressed, it's going to change
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your blood sugar regulation, it changes your hunger hormones, it
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changes that you're going to seek out certain types of
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food to calm yourself. Typically, people who are chronically stressed
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or reaching for something in high fat or high sugar,
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they don't even know they're doing that. They just think,
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I really like the taste of this. Actually, you're self
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soothing your nervous system and you don't even know it.
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And then at the same time you're causing more inflammation.
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So once we have that inflammatory like blood sugar spiking
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happening from that cortisol being out of balance, that's when
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all that weight gain happens. And then it stays that
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way because the body thinks I got to hold onto this.
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I'm going to be in a really terrible situation soon
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because I wake up every day and I'm in this
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terrible situation. So it's really hard to lose that weight,
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and so some people will come to me as a
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nutritionist and say, I want to lose weight, But if
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you don't address your mental health, there's really not a
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whole lot I can do to downright regulate your nervous
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system unless it's are you eating enough? Are you eating regularly?
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If you're putting yourself in chronic stress, we're going to
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continue that cycle. But a lot of people do under
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eat in this situation as well. And when you're under eating,
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you're underfueling, you have too high cortisol. Typically these people
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are over caffeinating themselves and they're like, I'm just gonna
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drink coffee and that's all I'm gonna get energy, all right.
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It creates this cycle that people are stuck in.
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Well, walk us through what chronic stress does to metabolism? Yes,
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well what really? What changes first in the body?
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Oh, that's kind of a chicken and egg question because
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it's were you born into chronic stress or did chronic
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stress enter your life later? Early childhood trauma has a
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huge impact on your metabolism. Typically, people who have early
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childhood trauma lean heavier in their weight, or even obese
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people who have trauma later, they may start gaining weight
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as a defense mechanism, especially women who have been assaulted.
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So it can be one or the other. It's not
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always the same thing. It depends on the individual. But
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what can happen. So when you have a lot of cortisol,
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it's going to spike your blood sugar all day. You
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don't want your blood sugar to spike. You want a
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slow rolling wave. So that's why you hear nutritionists say
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you want enough protein, you want complex carbohydrates, because what
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we're doing is we're blunting that blood sugar. If it's
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constantly up and down all day, what happens is you're
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releasing insulin all day. Well, your body isn't going to
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be as sensitive to that insulin over time, and so
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you're going to need more of it and more of it.
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And so what we call it in our world is
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insulin resistance. And so then you're going to see weight gain,
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you're going to see higher cholesterol. Also a nutrition world,
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when we see higher cholesterol, we're wondering is the body
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protecting itself from something because it doesn't happen in a vacuum.
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And then you're going to see high glucose and you're
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going to also see that chronic stress. So it becomes
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this cycle that people get stuck in and the body
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gets stuck in. But it can happen from exposure in
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utero to stress, early childhood trauma, trauma during the lifetime.
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It typically you're kind of there's there's a trigger sometimes
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and sometimes it's not in your control.
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Right. Well, let's say you've got two people that are
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eating the same, they feel, you know, like they're exercising
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the same, but the chronically stressed person is complaining about,
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you know, I can't I can't lose any weight. So
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is that that's that's because they're in this loop, right?
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It can be genetics plays a role as well, because
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you can have a chronically stressed person that is more innerrexic, right,
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and then they're not getting any nutrientts so they're not
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gonna put on any weight. So typically it's not like
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I'm seeing two healthy people and it's just chronic stress
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that's contributing to this. There's layers to it. There's learned
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behaviors to cope. Typically one of those people is binge
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eating in the evening because they've come down after a
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huge day and they're like, oh my gosh, I'm starving
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and then they start comfort eating and that soothes them.
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So we're seeing that in that person. Also, you mentioned
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they're exercising the same If this person's a woman or
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a man and their hormones are off, say they're chronically
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stressed and they have low testosterone, low estrogen, well that
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exercise actually might contribute to their chronic stress and could
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actually increase their cortisol. So there's a lot of layers
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to looking at an individual. It's really hard to be
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like we have twins their side by side, they live
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the exact same life, because what we've actually seen in
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research is people have done that, they've been through the
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exact same thing, and their body is different. And it's
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just what genes turn on. Because stress turns on different genes,
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it turns off different genes, so everybody everyone's a little
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bit different with it.
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Well, let's talk a little bit about sleep, right.
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I love sleep and I do too.
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I love sleep too, but sometimes I have a hard
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time going to sleep mm hmm, because my brain is
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just like you know, I just won't stop. And and
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it seems like there can be a sleep and blood sugar.
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There's a stress weight cycle that can happen. Mm hmm,
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well what what would you address first?
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So typically if that doesn't happen in a vacuum, so
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it's are you stressed? Do you have allergies? Do you
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have nasal congestion? After you eat dinner? Do you get
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really itchy? Do you so? Because there's multitude of things,
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So if you're really stressed out, what you're talking about
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is called evening rumination, where you cannot turn your brain off,
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you cannot calm down. Typically for that, we recommend box
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breathing for people because it starts down regulating your nervous system.
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You can so wake up and have that panic in
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the middle of the night. We also recommend box breathing,
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and then at that point we recommend maybe you want
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to talk to a therapist because something might be going on.
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But if we're in the other category of constant nasal congestion,