July 22, 2026

Beyond the Multivitamin: The Right Magnesium for You — and How Your HSA Can Pay For It

Beyond the Multivitamin: The Right Magnesium for You — and How Your HSA Can Pay For It
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Season 2

People are taking magnesium & still feeling tired & foggy. They're taking the wrong form for what their body needs. We break down the surprising differences of magnesium types & which ones support sleep, stress, & muscle recovery. We shift gears to money: if your employer offers an HSA, FSA, or lifestyle spending account, you may already have funds set aside for nutrition support you didn't know you could use. Make small changes with big results — using benefits already sitting in your account.

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start with Asking Good Questions.

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Hello, and welcome to the Ask Good Questions podcast where

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we try to ask a lot of good questions every

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single week. I'm your host, Benita bell Anderson, and we

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have a very pertinent, very very timely topic today around

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health and wellness, and I have got one of the

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stellar nutritionists in the whole country here with me today.

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Her name is Jenna Jamail. I will invite her to

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the podcast stage.

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Now, Hellow did I.

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Say your name right?

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Yes? You did?

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Okay? I was like, as I'm saying, and I'm going,

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did I do that right? Anyway? This is a gal

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that I have had the joy of getting to know

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a whole lot more this year. And let me tell

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you just a little bit about this girl. She's actually

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in Austin, Texas, correct, right, And she is a functional

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nutritionist and a neuroscientist. I didn't know that those two

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went together. She runs up private practice working with high

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performing individuals and focuses on finding the root cause of

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complex symptoms. She sees clients with a whole lot of

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different complaints, including gut issues, in brain fog, and chronic exhaustion.

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She's going to have a story about that today. She

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uses individualized clinical protocols, advanced testing, and simple changes. Probably

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the most important one is simple changes to alleviate symptoms,

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improve health, and introduce realistic lifestyle changes for lasting improvement.

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So anything you want to add to that.

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No, that sounds it up pretty good.

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Yeah, Well, I just love that you research as well

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as getting to know people and helping them, because I

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think that that makes it possible for you to stay

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timely on what's going on with everything that's happening in

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medicine these days.

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Well, you know, a lot of people don't think of

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nutritionous as researchers, but in a lot of ways we

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are because we get different cases coming in all the time,

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everybody with different symptoms, different background history, different family history,

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different exposure history, and so we have to take all

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of those pieces and then come up with what's best

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for that individual person. So in a lot of the ways,

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we're kind of doing research all the time. We just

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don't really call it that, right.

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Well, you know, like I'm you know, while you're talking

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about that, I'm thinking because you and I have done

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some consulting and it's like, you can't make me do anything.

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You also have to.

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Deal with that person's motivation and their willingness to follow

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the things that you're telling them. And you know, in

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the end, it's going to get down to that person,

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right and then they're going to be one hundred percent

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responsible for their own self, which is what I always say.

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Yeah, they're just.

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You know, it's just crazy So today we're going to

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focus on magnesium. I think there's a lot of I've

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been confused about because you see all these different ones.

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So we're going to clear this up today. So what

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was it? How did you become interested in specializing in

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like mineral and magnesium deficiencies that people have.

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So when you're if you do a master's in nutrition,

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you have to get deep into the nitty gritty of vitamins, minerals.

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What are those doing, what do they turn on and

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off in the body, why are they essential? How do

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you absorb them? How long does it take to absorb them.

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So in one of my assignments for class, it was

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all about magnesium, and most people kind of on sleep, anxiety,

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and then if you're constipated. But because I'm a neuroscientist

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and I've always loved neuro I wanted to know what

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was going on with the brain and magnesium. And the

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research I started stumbling upon was concussion protocols and how

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magnesium is one of the first things that you give

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to people who have a concussion. Not a severe concussion

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where we're talking like you're hospitalized and your comatose, we're

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talking like a football player has been concussed on the field,

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they're coming off, we are immediately handing them magnesium. Why

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are we doing that? And then that led me into

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there's different types of strokes and there's also something called

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a tia, which is a stroke like event. Yeah, magnesium

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is essential for recovering from that, and it can actually

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determine how long you have symptoms. And so from there

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I really started thinking about what is so important with

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magnesium in the brain, and oh, I'm actually going to

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be using a completely different type of magnesium than my

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count parts are and their nutrition practices because they may

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not see anyone with a stroke or with a concussion

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and have to recover from that. So that's kind of

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what got me on the hamster wheel of magnesium.

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Well, I mean for a long time, I had no

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idea that there was even different types.

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I know, most people know there might be two, there's

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a lot.

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Yeah, it's like what And one of the things I

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did and getting ready for this is you have an

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article on your website, which we'll have information about where

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to find that. But that article talks about matching the

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right form to your body's needs. So what first tipped

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you off to there's different things for different different you know,

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problems here.

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So yeah, that a lot of that again is just

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from school, Like I had to know what types of

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magnesium affected the gut and what is going to affect

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your sleep. And then some of them aren't even magnesium

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that you're going to take orally that sometimes we're you know,

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epsom salt is actually a form of magnesium. People don't

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know that. There's also magnesium chloride which you actually can

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put on as a lotion and rub into your legs

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for muscle recovery. So it's there's so many different forms,

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and then we have to be mindful, Like if I

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have a client come to me and they have irrital

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vowel syndrome and they lean loose stool, if I give

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them certain magnesium, I'm going to make their life miserable.

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So it's you have to be kind of you need

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to be mindful of what you're giving. And then we

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also have to understand all of the layers that it's

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going to affect and then how is that absorbed. So

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the absorption is key because you can't actually absorb magnesium

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without boron. But then there's certain types specifically for bone

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health that you need vitamin D and you need vitamin

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K two can't absorb it properly, so even there, like

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your absorption is completely different depending on what you're taking.

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Well, I'm thinking of a gine RMA's bottle that I

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saw at Costco and I can't and do you do

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you know the one I'm talking about? And they were

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like the little people, the people at the little tables,

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and they're hype being certain products. Okay, well this was

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like a giant bottle of magnesium gummies.

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Oh sure, And.

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It feels like like magnesium is having like all this

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hype around it. Do you feel like that's the case

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these days?

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Yeah, So a lot of our soil doesn't have the

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same amount of minerals that we used to have in

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Magnesium is one of those. And so I kind of

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feel like magnesium is starting to become talked about almost

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like vitamin D, where really doesn't matter where you live

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on the planet, you should probably be taking vitamin D.

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We're just not absorbing it like we used to. So

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I live in the South, I still have to take

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vitamin D. That's kind of the conversation around magnesium right

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now as well, is are we getting enough because your

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your body utilizes magnesium almost immediately. There's about two forms

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that it slows down and it doesn't get absorbed in

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the gut in the same way. But most of your

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magnesium it is, it is absorbed and used pretty much

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on the spot, which is why it's really hard also

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to measure magnesium. So some people want to go get

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a blood test. It's really hard for a blood test

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to accurately measure magnesium, especially all the different kinds. So

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if someone says, oh, I have really low magnesium, that's

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really hard to determine. So we look at symptoms more.

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We look at how are you feeling, We look at

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your bone health, we look at your muscles, we look

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at your energy, we look at your cognitive function. We

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look at those things and then we can kind of

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understand is magnesium necessary here?

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Well, you know, and a lot of the people that

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our listeners are getting ready to retire, they're more mature,

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right sure, And so for those people, what is there

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a certain type or form of magnesium that would be

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the type the thing that they should be getting.

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Is there?

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You know, It's just it sounds like you don't just

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take anything. You have to look at what is it

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what is the problem. So for people who are more

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in the retirement years, the last third of their life,

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I'm saying, you know that sixty to one hundred, you know,

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because now we have a whole lot more people living longer.

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But is there is there one particular one that they

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should be looking at or is still looking at what

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is my problem? What's my issue?

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One that I really would recommend that helps with anxiety,

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poor sleep, erasing mind, but also like your bone health

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is called magnesium glyconate. It's g l y c I

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n at. You can also see it as biglycinate. But

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that one does multiple things that are really beneficial for people,

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and so I do recommend that. There's a really great

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supplement called Calm, and Calm has magnesium glycinate in it,

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and it also has two other things that I love.

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One of them is an amino acid, and then one

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of them is a neurotransmitter, but it's elfianine in gabb up.

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Those help to calm a whole lot of things down.

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So if you take that, you'll probably feel more refreshed

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in the morning. It takes care of your bones, it's

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very relaxing. It's one of my favorites. It's not going

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to upset your stomach either. So that's one of the

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big that's one of the big kickers with magnesium is

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if you have stomach issues, you want to be very

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careful with the type that you take because you can

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make your stomach issues worse, or if you lean constipated,

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they could make things a whole lot better. It just depends.

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So for that, like for that, magnesium citrate is really

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great for constipation, but if you lean loose stool, stay

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away from it. It's gonna make your way. Yeah.

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Well, the other thing that I've been doing my own

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little research before this was that magnesium needs to be

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paired with another molecule to another molecule to be absorbed.

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And the thing that I become much more aware of

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is this whole issue of absorption, So what's the deal

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with having to be paired with something else?

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So what most people don't know is a lot of

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the nutrients that we take in, we can't actually absorb

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them very well without something we called enzymes. So enzymes

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are just like a key to a door. So when

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those enzymes actually get paired with the nutrients, then the

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body can take them up One of the greatest ways

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of introducing those enzymes is with stomach acid, and so

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older mature people have lower stomach acid, and so we

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look at, do we need to add some more support

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for stomach acid so that you can absorb those nutrients.

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Same thing with protein, same thing with B vitamins. So

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when it comes to magnesium, though, boron is one of

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the number one enzymes that will pretty much turn on

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almost all forms of magnesium. Okay, step for the one

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for bone health, that is, you're gonna need vitamin D

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two and you're gonna need vitamin K three. The reason

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you need those two isn't necessarily just to turn it

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all on. It's because you need we call them osteoblasts,

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and it's the cells that create new bone health. We

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need those to get activated at the same time, and

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so we need vitamin D two, we need vitamin K

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and then we need that magnesium at the same time

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that biglcinate or glycinate, whichever one you want to call it.

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It's both. We need that all together, and so it's

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kind of like a soup that we need everything to

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go into, and it's like a recipe that your body

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reads really really well. Once you have all of the

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right enzymes to turn everything on.

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So, so can you talk just a little bit more

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because I think about sleep, because that I'm guessing that

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that might be one of the biggest things that if

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people are dealing with poor sleep or a racing mind.

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I know I have suffered from that a lot, you know,

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just going to bed and looking at the ceiling and going, oh,

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I need to just shut my brain off. What make

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nusium form? Is it again that they should be looking

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for the.

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Magnesium glyconate And if you look at that, the supplement

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I mentioned is calm. It has that in there with

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the other two ingredients that are great. Sometimes they're gummies.

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Sometimes you can put them like in a water if

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you want to drink it, it's kind of up to you.

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But in the more mature age group, I've actually it's funny.

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In the mature age group and the most image your

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age group, they both love this supplement the most.

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Yes, Another problem that I have seen has been muscle

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cramps at night. Yes, muscle cramps soreness recovery. Does that

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call for a different kind entirely?

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Yes, So what's interesting.

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Unfortunately, I was hoping that that would gonna take care

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of everything.

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It does not have everything yet. Magnesium mallet is great

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for muscle repair, it's really important for different other layers

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of health as well, heart health, vascular health, vascular tone.

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It's really great for energy as well. It's not going

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to keep you up. What most people don't know is

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when muscles cramp, it's not just a lack of nutrients,

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but it's also a response of your mitochondria and how

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they're creating energy. And so one of the things we

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know is that if you're having that cramping, you might

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be having some mitochondrial dysfunction there. Magnesium mallae is great

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for that, and so we're not going to be keeping

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you up, but we're going to make sure that your

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muscle cells are able to actually reproduce the energy that

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you need. And then there's also you can do two

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different forms that are not oral. You can do magnesium chloride,

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which is a lotion and you can rub that into

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your muscles at night, or if you like a bath,

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it's called magnesium sulfate, which is just epsom salt, So

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you can get that almost anywhere. And I know a

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lot of people like to take a bath and then

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they can pop into bed and they can calm down

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a little bit with that.

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Right, Well, it sounds like you could take your magnesium

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glyconate for sleep. But then because a lot of times

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the most common time to have muscle cramps is nighttime.

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Ye, nighttime, so you could do a mallee before you

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get in bed. You could do a little combo if

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you wanted to. There's also multiple forms of magnesium where

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it comes as we call it a complex where there's

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multiple I recommend those, especially for clients who are recovering

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from a tia or a concussion. I'll recommend a complex

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that also has all of the vitamin D and vitamin

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K and boron and everything else in it, so they

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can take one pill and it needs pretty much all

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of their needs.

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Wow. Well, so now let's turn to bone health. Sure,

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that's another issue with people as they age. Which type

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of magnesium is best for bone health.

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So there's three. You don't have to take all of them.

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You don't have to take all of them, but if

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you're if you want to, this is where the combination

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can come in. Where I'm taking glyconate because I want

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to go to sleep easier. Oh, that's also really good

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for my bone health. Oh, I'm taking malle because that's

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really good for my muscle cramps. That's also really good

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for bone health. So okay, those two you could combo.

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And then and when I mentioned the magnesium sitrate that's

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good for digestion, that's also good for bone health.

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Awesome. Yes, Well, it's just like I think, what in

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all cases that I have found in my life, the

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easier that I can implement something than the more likely

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I am to do it. Yes, And so the thing

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if we're talking about all we're talking about these different

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issues and these different things, is there is it realistic

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or advisable or okay to for someone to take multiple

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forms of magnesium at once? Are they gonna you can't

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whether to take.

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The only one I would be careful of is the

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magnesium site trate if you lean with a looser stool, okay,

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just because you're really going to upset your stomach. But

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you know, you absolutely can combine them. And you know,

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the more potent or different forms of magnesium that I

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use for say like someone who's just had a concussion

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or someone who's had a stroke, those aren't usually readily

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available on the grocery or pharmacy shelf. You're not just

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going to walk up and be it's called magnesium L

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three and eight, you're you. Most people don't won't know

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what that is and they're not going to pick it up.

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So those things you're probably going to lean away from.

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But you can find magnesium glasning at any grocery store

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at this point. You can find mallee, you can Yeah,

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you can find all of those. If you wanted a combination,

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you can absolutely take them together.

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Which but the other thing that I'll mention will be

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that on your website there is also a place where

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they can look at the products that you have on

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your website and get a little bit of input from you.

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So that's another good thing to know. Yes, so say

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somebody's in those later years can and then and if

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they're going in know what I'm doing right now is

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not working? What's one simple step that they could take

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if they feel like what they're doing right now is

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not working?

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So I would base it off of the symptoms, like

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how are you feeling? Is what is the most pressing

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thing that's bothering you? And then if that's always been there,

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if you've been seeing a doctor over and over and

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over again. Then you know that maybe something there's something

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going on at the root level that you're just not

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getting care for. So you could find another practitioner if

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you wanted to. You could find a nutritionist if you

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wanted to. It kind of depends, but it really depends

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on what the pain point is for the person and

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what they're experiencing in order for them to address there,

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which I mean, you know, sometimes it's back pain, sometimes

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it's muscle pain like you mentioned, sometimes it's restless leg

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and nutrition serves a purpose in all of those. People

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just don't really know.

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That, right right, Well, I promised our listeners that we

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would have a story about an actual person that you've helped.

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So can you go through, you know, kind of set

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us up. Watch the backstory on this person that has

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been your client and how you helped her.

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Yeah. So she was a vice president of sales and

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she traveled. I think she sold insurance, so traveled all

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the time. She came to me because she wanted to

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lose weight, which I have to tell you most people

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come to me when they just want to lose weight.

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And then I have people fill out a questionnaire like

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a medical symptoms questionnaire. Form, and because what I do

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is called medical nutritional therapy, so that you're actually working

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on a medical level. So when she filled everything out,

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girl was struggling, like she's so exhausted. She's literally driving

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early to her sales meetings, sleeping for ten minutes in

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the parking lot, then going into her meeting, then leaving

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and going down to the gas station and taking another

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ten minute nap. And this was what she did every

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And she was like, I think this is fine. And

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I was like, okay, tell me more things about you.

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And she was living on diet, coke, and caffeine. And

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the thing that really stood out to me with her

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was how she spoke to herself internally. She she had

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this idea that she could only be a Dorito's girl,

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she couldn't be a carrot girl. I was like, okay,

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we have our work cut out for us, Like this

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is an identity crisis.

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So her, instead of trying to do an overhaul on

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her diet and change everything, my first stuff was actually

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getting her to sleep. And so for her, what I

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did was I was like, keep just stop caffeine seven

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hours before you want to be asleep. And then I

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told her when I wanted her to be asleep and so,

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which was by ten, and then we just started working

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on her sleep and no.

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More caffeine after three in the afternoon.

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Correct, two o'clock is your life. That's it. You better

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be done sipping by two.

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We're on two.

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We're not doing anymore caffeine after two. So then it

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took about three weeks and then she started sleeping normally.

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And once she could because her brain, you know, the

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brain fog from not sleeping, the inflammation from not sleeping,

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it's pretty aggressive for anyone. So having her being able

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to do that, then we were able to transition to like,

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let's change one thing on your plate. So we changed

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the type of protein she was eating, and then we

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made sure that she had enough at night so she

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wasn't starving at night. And then we added walking because

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that was easy. And we just did little easy things

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like let's add a cup of blueberries one week, and

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but we worked together for about eighteen weeks, and by

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the time she was done, she was eating a full

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Mediterranean diet. She was walking every single day, we were

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not napping in the gas anymore, she wasn't making diet

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coke anymore. But it's slow changes and she felt I mean,

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I think she lost over thirty five pounds, but it

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was just really and sleep had a lot to do

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with that. I'm not gonna lie. Sleep was huge for that.

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Oh yeah, but.

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Yeah, it was just meeting her where she was. She

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had no energy period, So there's no way I could

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have told her, Hey, we're going to start a workout

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routine and we're going to overhaul your entire day in

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week one like she never could have.

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No, it would have been overwhelming. Yah.

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Yeah, she would have been like, Okay, I'm never doing

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this again. But her mindset changed too, because by the

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end of it she was like, I'm kind of okay.

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Being the carrot girl. That was like, great, whatever gets

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you there. I just need you to eat some vegetables.

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Well, and that's the thing, you know, it sounds like,

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you know, like for me, that's what has worked always

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in my case. Is just one little thing and you've

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got to make it doable.

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Oh my gosh. Yes. And it's all about feedback too.

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If she had come back and said I can't do that,

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then I would have had to pivot and say, Okay,

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let's see what we can do. And she was so

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desperate to sleep. That was so easy to start with

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and to get her to do. And we I mean

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I even had to start her with melatonin because she

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could not fall asleep. She was so stressed out, she

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was so high strung, and I was like, and she

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couldn't do a sleep hygiene routine, which is okay. So

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we just had two rules. You have to stop working

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by eight pm, and you have to take your melatonin.

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And after a week of that, then she slowly got

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into a routine of what she could do at night

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so that she wasn't keeping herself up and only getting

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like four hours of sleep.

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Right, So little little bills went off in my head.

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Sure, what's the difference.

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Between melatonin, Because you said you started our melatonin, but

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we've been talking about magnesium. What's the difference between taking

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melatonin and magnesium?

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So different functions in the brain. So melatonin is a hormone.

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It naturally rises when it's getting dark outside, and so

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that's when you start to feel sleepy and you're like, wow,

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I'm really tired. And then your cortisol raises in the

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morning and that diminishes your melatonin and you start to

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wake up. So you normally have this cycle. Because she

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screwed up her cycle so badly, we were not having

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00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:33.119
heavy melatonin rising in the evening, and so magnesium would

470
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:35.640
not have been enough for her to It may have

471
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:38.640
made her be like, Oh, I'm relaxed enough to continue

472
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:42.240
binging this show in sead of I want to go

473
00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:45.599
to sleep. So magnesium is also not a hormone, right,

474
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:49.839
But the interesting thing too, magnesium is really important for inflammation,

475
00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:54.039
but melatonin in the brain is also an antioxidant, and

476
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:57.440
so when she's not sleeping that much, she's actually creating

477
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:01.240
something we call reactive oxygen species and brain, which creates

478
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:05.400
inflammation and causes an immune response. So magnesium would have

479
00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:08.160
stopped the inflammation, but it wouldn't have stopped where it

480
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:11.680
was starting. But if I give her melatonin, it stops

481
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:14.759
where it's actually creating the inflammation in her brain.

482
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.559
Did she did? She continued? Was there ever a point

483
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:21.039
where she was taking melatonin and magnesium?

484
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:25.079
No, she actually was able once we got her on

485
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:29.039
a rhythmic cycle and her circadian rhythm balanced again, she

486
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:31.519
actually didn't have to take melatonin at all anymore.

487
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:38.079
Okay, awesome, Okay, so let's shift. So I'm looking at

488
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.640
the time here. Okay, let's switch a little bit to

489
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.680
how do you you know? So obviously this is a

490
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:49.440
business of yours. You don't do this out of the

491
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:51.720
just the goodness of your heart. You're you know, you're

492
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:56.319
actually this is a business. So a lot of people

493
00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:59.519
probably also do not know that this can be paid

494
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:01.519
for nutritional counseling.

495
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:03.599
Correct can be paid through.

496
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:11.119
H HSA, FSA. It's called nutritional consulting. So let's talk

497
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.039
about how does someone use their health insurance to pay

498
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:16.440
for something like this.

499
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:21.960
Yeah, so some health insurance companies actually cover infinite sessions

500
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:23.839
with me with zero dollars out of pocket.

501
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:26.839
Who I want that kind of health insurance, right.

502
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:28.400
I'm like, I don't know who's doing this insurance. This

503
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:33.440
is amazing. And then there's HSA and FSA. They allow

504
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.680
you to use your spending account, so it's like a

505
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:39.599
credit card or like a debit card. They allow you

506
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:43.200
to use that card on services like me. And so

507
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:46.960
if you're not using it for glasses, if if you're

508
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.200
not if you're not seeing the doctor as often as

509
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:53.160
you should, some people aren't using any of those funds,

510
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.720
and then they just have them there and so people

511
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:58.519
don't think about nutrition in that way. Not a lot

512
00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:01.400
of people even think I need a nutrient. Sometimes they

513
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:04.000
get a referral from their doctor and then they go, well,

514
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:05.960
I don't know how to pay for this, and so

515
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.880
you can use that. What people also don't know is

516
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:13.079
you can use that on supplements and labs as well.

517
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:15.759
So if you want like a specialty lab run, which

518
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:19.680
so many people want, cortisol run, you can use your

519
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:21.880
card for that, And then if you want to buy

520
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.920
magnesium supplements, you can use your card for that. And

521
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:28.240
people just don't know that you have money sitting in

522
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:31.279
your pocket that you could actually be using for other services.

523
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:35.839
Right, is there any kind of a mindset shift that

524
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:41.400
someone you know, I mean people, people would have to

525
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.960
realize that they could benefit from something like that, and

526
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:48.759
you know, to consider So people are going to have

527
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:51.480
to have a mindset shift to you know, to consider

528
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:53.480
consulting with someone like you.

529
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:57.119
Yeah, I would say, like, if you go to the

530
00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:00.200
doctor and you have high cholesterol, I might not the

531
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.920
first person you think of working with, but I'm going

532
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.440
to save you a whole lot of money on pharmaceuticals

533
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:08.559
if you decide to work with me. Because we're gonna

534
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.599
fix we can help fix that problem just with food,

535
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:13.960
and then you're not having to pay out a pocket

536
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:15.960
for a statin or something else for.

537
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.119
The right of life, which and then.

538
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:20.599
There you know, there's a lot of things. When we

539
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:23.119
look at blood labs, we look at things a little

540
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:27.160
bit differently, so we if things are slightly low and

541
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.319
slightly high, we take all of that into account, and

542
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.079
then we look at like, how is the body struggling here?

543
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.440
Is there something going on? Some people don't know that

544
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:38.759
if you have high cholesterol, A lot of the time

545
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:41.799
when a nutritionist looks at that, we're thinking, what is

546
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.599
the body struggling somewhere else in compency? And so we

547
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:47.839
just we look at the body as a whole. We

548
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.640
don't silo the organs, and so we just have a

549
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.160
little bit of a different view. But a lot of

550
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.640
things you can improve with food with the right and

551
00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:59.839
I say supplements, but sometimes it is like we just

552
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:01.839
need to supplement for a short period of time to

553
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:03.880
help bring down the cholesterol and then we get off

554
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.720
of it. But a lot of people don't know that.

555
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.119
Do I want the prescription pad or do I want

556
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:13.880
to make a lifestyle change and for some people they

557
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:17.200
don't want to make the lifestyle change. But I'm finding

558
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:20.079
more and more people are tired of having the prescription

559
00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:22.359
pad and they would really like to be a style

560
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:23.119
change instead.

561
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:27.240
Right, it just makes so much more sense to go

562
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.079
that direction and be holistic about the whole thing, because

563
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.160
you are You're a whole Boddy, You're not just an organ.

564
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:37.000
Yeah, and their side effects, like I'm not really worried

565
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:38.799
about what the side effect is if I give you

566
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:41.799
brown rice, like you're gonna be fine. Yeah.

567
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:48.119
Yeah, Well, people that are retired. Does the whole hsa

568
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.240
fsa lifestyle spenning account? Is that going to even apply

569
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:53.839
to people that are already retired?

570
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:56.720
I don't think so. I think it's mostly for people

571
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.880
who are still working because they're getting that yearly, so I.

572
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.039
Can tell us they still have it as they retire,

573
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:05.440
and then that's just part of something their package.

574
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.359
Yes, yes, and then they could use it from their package.

575
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:12.640
Absolutely, but yeah, it's this is this is going to

576
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.720
be more for those who go I don't even know

577
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.640
if I have that. If you're listening and you're still working,

578
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:21.839
you need to look at if you have if you

579
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:25.519
know you have a corporate account. Go look see if

580
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.480
you have this that you can take advantage of something

581
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:28.839
like that.

582
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.119
Yeah, So I mean just use use it period, it's

583
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:33.319
it's money, use it.

584
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:37.160
Yeah yeah, why not? So what does the first month

585
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.079
look like? Someone says, Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna get

586
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.880
on track here with Janna. What does that first month

587
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:43.759
with you look like?

588
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:48.000
So I normally do I do a free consultation call

589
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:50.359
just to see where someone is at. Sometimes I'm not

590
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.240
a good fit. Some people don't want to work with

591
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:56.319
the nutritionist and a neuroscientist. They just want a really

592
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:58.720
really easy protocol that's going to make them lose weight

593
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.759
really fast. So for those people, I probably won't be

594
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:06.160
your person that you'll love. But for other people who

595
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.160
have really complex symptoms and they've been miserable for a

596
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.599
long time, those are mostly the people that come to me.

597
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:15.519
So I do this called I give them a game

598
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.599
plan and I let them know if that game plan

599
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:21.960
includes labs or not, and then when they choose to

600
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:26.640
sign up, we do a session. And that includes a

601
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:30.000
lot of education. So a lot of people don't understand

602
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:32.240
a lot about food and how to shape their plate

603
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:35.319
and what they need to do, and then there's meal

604
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:40.319
plan recommendations on different recipes to try, and then really

605
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:43.160
good foods that are therapeutic for the body to include.

606
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.960
Sometimes we'll do something called an elimination where we'll like

607
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:50.680
remove gluten or dairy for a short while and see

608
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:54.279
if that's causing any issues in the body. Sometimes that

609
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:58.279
comes up quite a bit, but it's a lot of

610
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:03.119
individualized mood pieces, and then people can message me literally

611
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:06.119
anytime during the week if they have questions or concerns

612
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.719
or they want to know something. But it's a lot

613
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:11.239
of education in meeting people where they are and then

614
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:14.719
answering some complex questions. There's a lot of people who

615
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:18.159
have gut issues that they have doctors who don't know

616
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:21.440
what small intestinal bacteria overgrowth is, for example, and like

617
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:23.679
we all know what that is in nutrition, and we

618
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:25.960
all know what we're looking at in nutrition, and so

619
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:29.519
we kind of speak a different language, but we really

620
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:31.960
do have an understanding of what's going on with the body,

621
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:34.199
and we do a good job of checking off the

622
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:37.840
boxes of Okay, if we have an issue in the gut,

623
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:40.400
what do we need to start looking at, what do

624
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:43.119
we need to get tested? And sometimes I refer people out.

625
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.920
I sometimes I'll tell people I can get you eighty

626
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:48.519
eight percent of the way there. The rest of it,

627
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:50.000
we're going to have to get to a doctor. But

628
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.599
I always recommend the doctor, recommend the type of doctor,

629
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:57.880
and then get them care. One of my favorite clients

630
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.920
I've had, she's ninety, she might be twenty now. She

631
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.920
was passing out all of the time, and I finally

632
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:07.960
was like, yeah, pass just like dropping like a fly.

633
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.679
She's walking through the grocery store and she's just falling

634
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.719
to the ground. I got her eighty percent of the

635
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:16.000
way there where we weren't passing out all of the time.

636
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:17.800
But I told her, you're going to need to see

637
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:19.679
a cardiologist.

638
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:22.679
Because what about seizure disorders?

639
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.239
And so that's what I wondered. Actually, what turns out

640
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:29.079
is she had a hyperactive vegus nerve and I was like, oh,

641
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:30.840
I know what to do with that. So then we

642
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.880
had to change like how she's eating when she's eating,

643
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:37.920
how to sit after she's eating, electrolyte balance, We're doing

644
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:41.199
completely different work together. But I needed a cardiologist to

645
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:43.559
be able to answer that question on why are you

646
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:44.840
just dropping all of the time?

647
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:48.840
Yeah, you can't be dropping. No, that doesn't work.

648
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:51.280
It's twenty she started dropping all the time at the end.

649
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:53.000
You know this is not normal.

650
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.480
Okay, I got to move along here because our time

651
00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:58.559
is running away. Jana.

652
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:02.559
Sorry, speaking of running, you don't.

653
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:07.679
Have people start exercising right away, is there?

654
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:11.239
Why are you?

655
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:15.079
Why are you taking that approach to not adding exercise

656
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:15.599
right away?

657
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:21.840
So sometimes people are over exercising. Sometimes people's nervous systems

658
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:26.679
are so stressed out. If we add exercise in, we're

659
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.800
just gonna the nervous systems just feet more stressed. And

660
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:34.679
sometimes that's honestly the harder thing to start than changing

661
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:36.880
your food. It's a lot easier to add a couple

662
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:41.199
of blueberries every day than actually go outside and do something.

663
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:45.760
I think so I think that it's very easy to

664
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:46.880
add a couple of blueberries.

665
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.400
Yeah, I mean, you can get food delivered now, you

666
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:51.920
don't have to go outside. I don't know.

667
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:55.199
I have just sign up with one of those things

668
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:59.000
like Hello Fresh or whatever, Yeah, several of them.

669
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:03.800
Now. Working out can be really stressful for people. It's

670
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:06.679
the thing that most people beat themselves up the most for.

671
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.159
Like New Year's resolutions. I'm going to go to the gym.

672
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:12.599
Yeah, and that lasts I know.

673
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:18.960
I'm really maybe two weeks exactly. So I try to

674
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:23.639
pick the most realistic thing that you can be successful at. Typically,

675
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:26.079
once you're like, oh I had a blueberries that was

676
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:29.559
no big deal, And I'm like, what kind of exercise

677
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.039
do did you like as a kid? Do you like swimming?

678
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.760
Do you like bike riding? Do you I'm not trying

679
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:39.599
to get you on a weightlifting regimen ever, initially unless

680
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:41.159
you come to me saying you want to do that.

681
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.079
But really a lot of the goals I have is

682
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:48.519
like just walking, just moving your body, swimming if you

683
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:50.840
want to, yoga if you want to, but it's something

684
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:56.639
that you enjoy doing that sometimes can take truly, sometimes

685
00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:00.119
clients never get there, and sometimes clients are like, oh,

686
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.280
yoga was okay, I can do that once a week,

687
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:05.920
and then I just want to walk, right, But even

688
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.360
like convincing people to walk, and like, you should listen

689
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:12.440
to an audiobook or a podcast or something because.

690
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:16.480
I feel differently. I have days when I don't I

691
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:21.239
feel like lifting weights. I know that is the case

692
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:26.719
that every day I can have a different mindset about Yeah, exercise.

693
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:30.760
But people beat themselves up about exercise. People don't beat

694
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:32.440
themselves up about a couple of blueberries.

695
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:41.280
No. No, Well, if someone's feeling like they're managing fatigue

696
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:43.880
or stubborn weight loss, it's never going to come off.

697
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:47.239
Where would they even start?

698
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:50.760
Oh, it depends on what your interest is. Do you pick?

699
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:51.840
So pick something?

700
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.840
Pick something like yeah, because some people, you know, they're like, realistically,

701
00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.199
I don't have time to change my entire life. I

702
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.480
want to do a GLP one. Cool, let's do that.

703
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:03.440
Some people are like, I want to try changing all

704
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:07.000
of my diet first, Cool, let's do that. It's really

705
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.280
on what the person wants to do and where I

706
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.079
can meet them with what their needs are.

707
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:18.760
If you if someone said hiring a nutritional scientist is

708
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:20.599
too expensive, what would you say.

709
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.000
Oh, we're so cheap. Because you're only going to work

710
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:25.599
with me for like four or five months. Then you're

711
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:29.840
probably never going to see me again, so I'm typically

712
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not in your life forever. It's a short it's a

713
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short relationship.

714
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:37.480
Have you heard that. There's there's a quote. It just

715
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.280
made me think of it. It's like, you're going to

716
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:42.400
pay for this one way or another. If you're overwhelmed

717
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:46.920
with with some bad health habits. You're either going to

718
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:47.440
pay now or.

719
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:51.000
You're going to pay later, right, absolutely, And I promise

720
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.559
you if you decide to go the pharmaceutical route and

721
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.480
just do that, you are going to pay like twenty

722
00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:57.719
times what I cost.

723
00:39:58.159 --> 00:39:59.280
Yeah, you only.

724
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And truly I've I have had clients I've worked with

725
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:04.559
who were looking at heart attacks, who worked with me

726
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.159
for six months and their scans were clear. I don't

727
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.519
ever talk to them again. They're living great lives, right,

728
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:14.559
So my job isn't to retain you. My job is

729
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:16.800
to teach you, get you where you need to be

730
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:18.000
and there you go.

731
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:21.400
Right, Well, we're gonna.

732
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:22.119
Have to wrap this up.

733
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:26.719
I swear these this is like forty minutes, but it

734
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:31.840
went shu what really fast? Someone's no, you don't talk

735
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:35.360
too much, jem. If someone listening wants to check whether

736
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:42.360
they have unused HSA FSA or lifestyle spending funds, what

737
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.000
do they do? Where should be their first move? Where

738
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:46.679
should they go to take a look at that?

739
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:49.920
So they should check with their company that they work

740
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:54.280
with to see what their balance is. All of that

741
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:58.880
lives in house with that company. And then anytime they

742
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:01.360
decide to use it if they use it for nutrition,

743
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:05.480
and they'll get it. They'll automatically get a receipt from

744
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.880
that h SA FSA as well saying it's approved.

745
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:14.880
Right, right, I want to We're gonna, we're gonna close

746
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.760
up here, and I'm gonna this is this article that's

747
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:19.760
on her website called match the right Form to your

748
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:25.320
Body's needs. I'm going to just read the last little paragraph. Sure,

749
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:28.920
instead of playing a guessing game and buying five different bottles,

750
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:33.159
which I sometimes have done that in my life. The

751
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:37.480
modern approach to mineral health favors a comprehensive, multiform formula.

752
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:41.280
By blending these diverse forms into a single ritual, you

753
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:44.840
give your body a true broad spectrum tool. And that's

754
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:48.159
really what the whole magnesium conversation is all about. It's

755
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:53.679
a tool to support your body. Yes, right, so your

756
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:57.639
brain gets the calmet craves. And really, if you're not

757
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:02.199
taking care of it, your body's going to start screaming

758
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:07.039
at you louder and louder until you do. Yes, So

759
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:09.559
your brain gets the colmet craves, your muscles get the

760
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:14.000
recovery they need, and your cardiovascular system gets the support

761
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:18.480
it deserves all from a single intelligence scope or capsule.

762
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:23.079
But you know, it's just like figure out for me.

763
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:27.599
I just want to say, just figure out what's one

764
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.159
thing that you can do to get yourself down the

765
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:33.559
road towards a healthier body that is going to function better.

766
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:38.360
So give me kind of what would you want to

767
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:41.000
say to close this out.

768
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:47.639
To close it out, I would say, one, consider nutrition.

769
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:50.800
We might do more than you think we do, as

770
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:54.480
seen by how much I've just explained about magnesium. And

771
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:58.880
then two, look into your hsa FSA lifestyle spending because

772
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.519
you could be leaving money on the table that you

773
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:03.679
could be using for your health and wellness, and you

774
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.519
could be getting help that you probably deserve to have

775
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:08.480
in your life that you may not think you need

776
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:10.000
yet well.

777
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:12.679
And being a financial advisor, one thing I always say,

778
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.079
and this has kind of become a byline, is health

779
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:19.599
is the first wealth. Absolutely, you can have all the

780
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:21.280
money in the world, but if you do not have

781
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:24.119
your health and you don't take care of this, and

782
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:26.679
I'm just very passionate about this, and you have got

783
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:29.559
to take care of this so that you can continue

784
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.800
to be out there and helping people and making a

785
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:33.960
difference in the world.

786
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:38.199
And the people who don't have their health absolutely agree

787
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:40.360
with you because it truly feels like there's nothing worse.

788
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:45.920
Yeah, so that's what we're striving for. And Jana, I

789
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:48.519
want to thank you so much for joining me today.

790
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:51.599
This has been a wonderful conversation. There will be a

791
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.440
place on my website where I have all the downloads

792
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.280
from guests. You can go find information on how to

793
00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:59.960
find Jana. Tell everyone what your website is.

794
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.719
It's Rose Ginger dot com.

795
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.800
We won't even get into why you called it that, but.

796
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:09.519
Okay, that's another day.

797
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:14.840
There's no time for a discussion on Rose Ginger anyway.

798
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:19.079
So thank you Janna for joining me today, and thank

799
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:23.159
you so much everyone for joining the Ask Good Questions Podcast.

800
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:25.159
I think we did ask a lot of good questions

801
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:28.280
and hopefully you've got some things that you can take away.

802
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.880
So with that, thank you for joining us. We'll see

803
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:32.639
you next time.

804
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Today's episode is over. But we did ask good questions again,

805
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:44.400
didn't We don't miss out as we broadcast live every Wednesday,

806
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:48.440
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807
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:52.440
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