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let's join your hosts, Banita Bell Anderson as together we
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start with Asking Good Questions.
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Hello, and welcome to Asking Good Questions. This week we
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are doing part two of optimizing your Social Security. We
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are going to be talking about how you coordinate social
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Security with the rest of your retirement assets. Now, if
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you didn't get a chance to see the first part
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of this, it was last week and you can go
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back and find the part one of optimizing your social security.
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But for now, let's get going and I am going
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to start sharing some screens. So here we are just
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a little bit on me. And you know, since I
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am fairly new to podcasting, I am a snowbird. I'm
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in the western part of the United States. I'm a
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financial advisor, I'm an author, I'm a podcaster. I'm a fiduciary,
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fiduciary and an investor coach because of grandchildren. I have
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an office in Washington State and the Great State of
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Washington that is in the Pacific Northwest, and then in
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the winters, we are in Saint George, Utah, which is
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high desert, red rock, beautiful country. So if you need
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more information about me, you can find that on the
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website called Ask Good Questions podcast dot com. All right,
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so optimizing your soil security? What should you do? So
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you know what you should do. So this discussion, as
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I said, started last week. Today, we're going to discuss
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how you coordinate this government benefit program with the rest
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of what you have saved your whole life. Right, So,
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just before we get started, because I'm a financial advisor,
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got a little discolo closure. You got to remember that
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I am These are my opinions. This is an educational
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program and it's not endorsed or approved by the Social
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Security Administration or any federal government agency. It's hypothetical with
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the big picture ideas to educate you. I am licensed
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through a firm called Tencap, and so all of that
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information is here if you need to look any of
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that up. All right, So we're going to continue this discussion.
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Reserve your content unique to your situation for your complementary
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strategy session on zoom that I provide that link and
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other downloads for course materials can be found on the
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website Ask Good Questions podcast dot com. All right, so
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just realize that I am off for that if you
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want to get some questions answered. So, how in the
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heck do you put all of this together? What should
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you do to make sure that you are doing the
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right thing for yourself? So look at this question. How
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long do you need to plan for a retirement? Right? Well,
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this is out of Wharton. Wharton has done a lot
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of studies and data. If you are male and you're
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healthy at sixty five, you have a twenty five percent
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chance of living beyond ninety two years old. Now, no surprise,
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if you're female, you have a fifty percent chance of
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living beyond eighty nine and a twenty five percent chance
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of living beyond ninety four. Well, what if you're a
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couple and you're both healthy at age sixty five? So
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fifty percent chance of least one of you living past
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ninety two. And are you thinking now of some people
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that maybe you've seen in the news or that you know,
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there's a twenty five percent chance at least one of
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you is going to live beyond ninety seven. And get this,
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there's a one in ten chance that at least one
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of you is going to live beyond one hundred. We
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all know we have seen so and so is having
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their hundredth birthday. That is happening more and more and more.
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And the sobering thing about these statistics and this data
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is that we need to plan for a relatively long
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now it should be exciting period of your life. Okay.
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What I see though, and what the data shows, is
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that way too many people cut this benefit short and
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take it early before their full retirement age, which for
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most of you is probably sixty seven. This is a
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super common and very expensive mistake. And I'm going to
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show you why you do not want to penalize yourself.
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You want to give yourself what's called delayed credits. So
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I'm going to give you some good examples why you
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should do that. Now, one of the things that we
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do when you do your call with well, if we
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get past that call and decide to work together and
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decide to get some things going, we'll do an analysis
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of what are the choices, what are the best choices
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for you? So this is just a slide of something
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that can analyze your particular situation and give you the
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data for what is the most intelligent way for you
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to approach SO security. Okay, And another thing that is
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going to be very in front of you is going
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to be that most of the time you're going to
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be paying taxes on probably eighty five percent of your
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soial security benefit. Now, I'm sure you like and you
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and me and all the rest of us have heard
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that they may be thinking about taking taxes out of being,
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you know, having to pay taxes on SoC security benefits.
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That would be great if they can figure out how
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to do that, you know, in a correct way. But
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right now, don't plan on it plan on having to
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pay taxes on your Social Security benefit. Okay, let's talk
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a little bit. We went into this a little bit
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last week. Let's talk about the future of SOI security
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and kind of what's going on there. This is not
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a four oh one k, this is not an IRA,
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It's an insurance program. And current wage earners out there
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who are being you know, having a little bit of
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Social Security, a little bit of medicare taken out of
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their paycheck. They are supporting those who are receiving benefits
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and retirement right now. That is the truth of the situation.
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Some more truth about this whole thing is that after
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twenty twenty, the Treasury started to redeem the assets that
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are in their trust fund savings accounts to pay for
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the expenditures over the tax income and interest income.
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So that is.
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Something that has been coming for a long time, and
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they're predicting in about ten years that that trust fund
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savings account is going to be completely gone. That doesn't mean,
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hear me, that does not mean Social Security is going away.
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It means that the level of current wageoarners who are
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putting money into the system would be enough to pay
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seventy nine percent of current benefits. We don't know what
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that means. We don't know if it means people coming
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up that doesn't We don't know if it means people
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that are already on Social Security, which are sixty six
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million people. We don't know what that means yet. So
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just realize that the Soial Security Trustees report keeps telling
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us that the total depletion of the savings accounts is
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going to happen, and then the tax income will be
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able to cover about seventy nine percent through twenty eighty nine.
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Let's hope that they get their act together and that
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they find some fixes. Now. I believe there are some
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ways that they can rectrify this situation. They could continue dramatically.
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I think they need to raise payroll TA on high
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income workers, meaning right now it's at one hundred and
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sixty eight thousand in income. I think it's going to
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like one hundred and seventy four or something like that,
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and they should probably just make the top like two
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hundred and fifty thousand, so that everyone who's receiving an
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earned income out there just continues to put into the system.
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I believe another thing that could possibly happen would be
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that they would raise the retirement age. Most people out
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there contemplating Social Security, you're looking at age sixty seven
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as their full retirement age. I'm betting that that might
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be something they look at, is to raise the retirement age.
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And then of course they have formulas for how much
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they figure out how much are going to pay you,
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So revising the formula for future benefits is also very
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much on the table. So here's my financial disclosure statement.
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It's my opinion that adjustments will be made and Social
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Security has a really good chance of remaining solvent for
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many generations to come. I sincerely hope that that is
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very true, because many, many, many people are depending on it. Right. Okay,
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so let's talk about we're talking today about optimizing income. Well,
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there's some dangers you could if you don't optimize your
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so Security income. You could you could spin down your
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IRA too fast. Taxes have to be withheld on all
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IRA withdrawals, and more of your Social Security benefit could
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become taxable. You know, those are all things that could happen.
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So we're going to use Bob and Mary. So there,
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he's sixty three, right now, she's sixty. We're going to
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assume is, so benefits grow at a cost of living
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adjustment of one point five percent per year. This next
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year is two point five percent. That changes every single year.
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Let's say that this couple would love an annual pre
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tax income goal of one hundred thousand dollars a year,
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and they have saved and saved and saved their whole life.
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They have seven hundred and fifty thousand in investable IRA
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assets that they hope will earn six percent that is
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available for them to also use for income. So we're
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going to explore how a shortfall and income can be filled.
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All right, So now remember this is just an example.
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I'm not saying this is exactly how it would happen.
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I'm trying to just enlighten you on some ideas on
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some of the things to consider. So one of the
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things to consider is that you know, people will say, well,
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by taking payments early, you start receiving benefits sooner, but
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it is at a reduced rate. Well, the other side
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will say, well, if I delay, my monthly benefit amount
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will increase up until age seventy. But the longer you wait,
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the fewer monthly checks are going to get. Well, that's
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why we have that analyzer program because we can analyze
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with your data input into the system, we can analyze
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exactly what's the best thing for you. But using the
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information that you know about your health, your family history,
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we can help you determine the right time for you
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to file in order to optimize your benefit based on
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what you expect. Obviously, we don't know what the future
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will bring, but we can say up some likely scenarios
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as well as how you envision your retirement to go right.
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So let's say that Bob starts receiving benefits at age
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sixty three at about eighteen hundred and eighty dollars a month.
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Let's say Mary starts receiving benefits at age sixty two,
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at thirteen oh eight. But look what happens if Bob
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waits seven years, he gets those delayed credits and he
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starts receiving benefits at age seventy. Well, that then is
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three four hundred and ninety three dollars a month. That
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is a huge, huge difference Mary. Maybe Mary only waits
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a year and she starts receiving benefits at age sixty
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three or fourteen twenty four a month. Now I get it.
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Sometimes you don't have a choice. Sometimes you have to start.
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But if you can, if you can work longer, if
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you can get a really good, good idea of what
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is right for you, then you can maximize and optimize
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what you're going to do with this thing. So now
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remember this is just an example. So scenario A is
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if they file early, so they have much smaller SOB
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security benefits. So if they want one hundred thousand a year,
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what does that mean? They have to take a lot
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more out of their IRA, which means they're going to
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pay more taxes and the IRA could be sped down
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more rapidly, and you're going to pay one hundred percent
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all distributions from from the normally. Okay, this is just
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this is the blanket. You know. Usual most of the time,
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you're going to have to pay taxes on whatever you
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take out of the IRA. Now, remember that you're going
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to pay let's that you're going to pay eighty five
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percent of your social Security benefit in taxes. You're going
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to pay less in taxes if you optimize your social
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security and have a larger Social Security payment between the
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two of you and a smaller IRA distribution. So you know,
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obviously we don't know exactly but this is, you know,
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the worst case scenario of what could happen. You could
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if you had a distressful, not intelligent way of doing
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your investing in the stock market, you could lose a
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lot of value in your IRA, and you could spend
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it down more than what you would really like. So
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scenario B, you wouldn't have to take as much out,
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and so those are just these are some things to
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just really think about. So just to look at this
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in another way, you can see scenario A and how
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much of soil security you're having to pay taxes on.
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And there's a potential loss of fifty eight thousand dollars
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in this scenario if you take more money out of
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your ERA than what you really needed to if you
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would have maximized your soil security. So the thing is