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start with Asking Good Questions.

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Welcome, Welcome so much to the podcast. We are here

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today with a very special guest, and we are going

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to talk all about the five Big lesson. The most

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important thing is why you should even consider but you know,

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maybe think about going vegan this year or something, you know,

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starting that direction. So I have a special guest today

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and as well, step back a little bit. We're going

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to be showing my hydrophonic garden, which when I met Vicki,

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she was like, Hey, you have a hydroponic garden. So

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we're going to be talking a little bit about that.

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But let me introduce you to her. She has a

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Vicky woman has been vegan since about October of twenty eleven,

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and she is a PCRM certified Food for Life instructor.

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What is PCRM. It's Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. It's

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a non proper organization by Neil Barnard, doctor Neil Barnard, Okay,

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And she's a graduate of the Ruby Cooking School's Professional

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Plant Based Certification course. She's also educated herself along the

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way on all things vegan and plant based and cruelty free.

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So her goal is to help others learn vegan and

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plant based options and resources so they may find their

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own unique path to a cruelty free and satisfying diet.

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And what's interesting is I had found doctor Barnard on

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like YouTube podcasts, and so the reason that I found

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him was he was talking about this book and come

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out fairly with maybe last year, and in it it

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talked about these people that do cooking classes. I went

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to his website. But if there's anybody in Saint George, Utah,

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where I am Loda Bold, VICKI shows up and I

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just introduced myself and I said, hey, I would love

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to meet you. I've been learning about doctor Barnard and

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so it's because of this book and then going on

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his website and checking it out that I found Vicky.

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So welcome, welcome, Thank you. There anything more you want

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to say about your background and why, let's let's basically

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start with anything you want to add, and also why

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you might be okay. So back many years ago, I

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thought it wasn't right that animals have to die so

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that we could eat. I just it didn't make sense

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to me. But you know, I'm sixty two now, so

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there was no internet back then. There was very little

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resources that I could find. I looked on I didn't

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look online. I looked in the library, I at at

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the bookstore, and everything turned up. You know, it's the

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circle of life. You just have to eat animals and

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be a nature protein and all of that. So one day,

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thirteen years ago, a little over thirteen years ago. Now,

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I was in a bookstore and I picked up a book.

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It's something like, I don't know, Dummies, vegetarian Form to

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idiots going to Vegetarianism, and I picked it them and

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there's this little tiny paragraph that said, the vegan diet

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seems to be the most healthy diet you can be on.

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And I thought, that's it. I'm doing it. And then

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the next day, you know, I went through my refrigerator,

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got rid of all the animal products and it's it's

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literally the best thing I've ever done. Wow, other than

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having my kids, it's the best thing I've ever done

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in my entire life. I feel so much more vibrant,

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and I feel really right with my stuff. I think

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that's probably the biggest part is nobody has to die

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so that I could eat. It's also really healthy. So yeah, yeah,

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before I've got several questions, I'm going to ask her.

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We're going to really delve into this. But first I

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want to show you something that has become very important

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to me, and that is this hydrophonic garden. Now, I

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don't know if you've heard of there's a lot of

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different I actually made one out of a bin, but

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this one is a power garden. You can see down there,

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point my finger, there's a big container of like twenty

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gallons of water. There's a pump down there. You can

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see there's cages, there's lights, and I have it inside

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right now because I started it in November because we

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I'm a snowbird and so we're six months here and

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six months up north in Washington State. So I got

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this started in November and it's just been cold enough

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that it was just not going to work outside. I'm

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going to be putting it out in my backyard probably

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next week. But right now it's been great because I

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have a couple of kinds of kale. I've got the

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best Swiss chart. There's a great big tomato plant that

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is setting all kinds of tomatoes. There's actually cucumbers and watermelon.

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stop going up about that's all peas that are going

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crazy up over the top. Finach, green onions, chide. So

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I highly recommend looking into doing hydroponic gardening because when

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I want to make a salad, I just come over

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here to my hydroponic garden. And one of the things

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that when we were getting to know each other. I

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said something about my hydroponic garden, and Vicki goes, oh,

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I want to see her. I was so excited, She's

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not and so and so then that led to, well,

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I'd love to have you be on the show and

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talk about what you found out, because health and wellness

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besides all the financial things I do. I feel like

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if you don't have your health, you don't have any wealth,

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because that's the biggest thing is to be able to

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enjoy your life because you are healthy and so. All right,

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so what are some So let's start here. I know

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that I have been struggling off and on to become

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more and more I'm like, more and more and more

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plant based. I'm not one hundred percent yet, but I'm

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trying to be on that road. What are some reasons,

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Vicki that people say, oh, I can't go vegan, it's

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too hard or whatever. What are the reasons that you hear? So?

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Probably number one, if I need my protein, I could

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never be vegan. I could be vegan because I could

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eat that way, but I need too much protein. My

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doctor would one, Well, I can tell you that there

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is so much protein and a vegan diet. There are

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so many fits. I am not, you know, suffering from

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lack of protein. I have not met one person. You

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don't look like you're witheringly. You know, I'm not withering

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away to nothing. It's it's a very healthy diet. But

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there is a lot of protein in even things you

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wouldn't expect vegetables. Another thing is bacon. We all know.

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I know some of you are saying bacon and cheese. Oh,

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cheese is a big one. As far as bacon is concerned.

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I'm not a big fan of processed foods. Bacon's and

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processed food so we're just so many other things. But

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they do have some really good substitutes for these things.

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But after a while it's a little too salty and

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you're not going to want it anyways. But there are

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if you want to have a junk food diet it

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you know, and bacon isn't healthy, right, you can find

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non vegan, I mean non mete vgan, truly vegan. I've

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been researching that and finding because I was listening actually

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to a doctor Barnard podcast about going to the grocery

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store and I was like, I didn't go test that,

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and yeah, I'm finding stuff that I never even knew

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was there. Yeah, I do want to say something now,

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doctor Barnard and pcr and really quick, is that this

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conversation we're having is between the two of us. I'm

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not representing PCRM in this podcasts. In Yeah, I've certified

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to teach their plant based cooking courses and that's not

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what this is. So I just want to be clear

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on that. But yes, and there's also you can take

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a block of super firm tofu why is it really

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thin marinated and there's recipes online and bake it and

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it can be you can make something being salty and delicious.

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So she tried to me that it may not be

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exactly like bacon, but you're look, you're not killing an

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animal to eat, you know, and you're not eating She's

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so lay, she's very passionate about this, I tell you,

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And you're not eating all this saturated fat. I mean,

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it's healthier. And then she's so she's no matter which

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way you go, it's going to be high and fat.

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But there are really good vegan cheeses. Now, it's come

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a long way since eleven years ago. So there are

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different sections in the grocery aisle that you can find

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in the frozen food aile there's usually a plant based section.

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There's in the dairy isle you can find different things.

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I have. One of my advices is my creamer, and

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it's hard to find now that I like the filk

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original soy cramer for my coffee. It's you know, it's

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not the best. It's I mean, it tastes good, not

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the healthiest, but it's the one of the devices I do.

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But anyways, there's different sections in the in the grocery

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store where you'll see plant based. You do have to

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read the labels though, because certain things like coffee made

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and other things they have either way protein or caseine

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or those are all not vegan products ingredients, so be careful.

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Ls labels are important. Right, Let's talk a little bit

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more about protein, because that I think is maybe the

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biggest area that there are misconceptions and misinformation out there.

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And it's been basically it's like, if I don't have meat,

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I'm not going to get enough. And I think you

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would tend to disagree. I do because I'm getting enough

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and I'm not having me. But there are a variety

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of different doctors out there. I've got I've brought a

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couple of books Joel Furman. It is a really good one,

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and so is doctor Greyer kind of and comfitt in

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this way. Yeah, I'm just going to kind of bring

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a couple. Sorry, I had to grab my books. Eat

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to Live. This is doctor Joel Furman's book, and he

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talks a lot about that. So no, and let me interject.

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I always do uh, what we call a bonus download

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on the ASPID Questions podcast dot com website. There's a

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section there where you can go to bonus downloads everything

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for every episode that there's extra information or where to

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go find something is there. So there will be a

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flier or a PDF about all of these resources that

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Vicky is talking about. So you'll be able to look

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those things up later. Yeah, and you can find these

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folks online. But look at vegan vegan protein, you know,

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look it up online. This doctor, uh, Joel Furman, and

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I buy some of his products on his website. He

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does not pay me to do this. He doesn't even

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know who I am, probably, although I did meet once

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at a conference. But he's got great products. But this

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book is a really good one, to Eat to Live,

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that goes over the benefits of eating a plant based

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diet and also gives you a plan if you have

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health issues especially. It's a it's a it's a great book.

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But you know, people people have different reasons for wanting

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to go plant based. You know, some people it's for health, summits,

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for the animals. I happen to be both, and the environment. Okay,

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I'm all three. But you know, there's all different reasons.

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So your diet is going to be different based on

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what your reason is. So you have to decide yourself

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which way to go. But protein isn't a problem. There's

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so much out there. There's so much protein in a

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vegan diet. So how so people go, Okay, Vicky, you're

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making me want to look into this. How can they

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overcome these issues? What are some things like comparable vegan options,

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high quality plant based protein choices, things like that. I

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always say, try to stick to the whole food if

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you can. If you're transitioning and you really like the

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faith to meat, there's plenty of good vegan meats out

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there until you're ready to venture out on your own

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things I like to do is use lentils I make

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lentil soup, probably weakly. There's plenty of intant plot if

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a great porch. My instant pot is like gold to me.

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put some kind of vegetable broth better than Bill Young

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has a little jar with vegan chicken broth, so it

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tastes like chicken broth, but it's vegan. You just put

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it in there with hot water. You put some lentils in.

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I'll put those at the bottom of my bull. And

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this out of the way that you can just put

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it all in there, turn the instant pot on, and

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in thirty minutes you have a homeade delicious suit with

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you know, all kinds of healthy nutrition in. They're awesome. Yeah,

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but there's also you're asking about options without your last

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question options because parable vegan. Ally you go to Trigger Joe's.

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like cooking, or you can make it yourself. Look it

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up online. There's all kinds of great recipes tofu. Again,

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there's a lot of controversy about tofu. Some people think

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it's great, some people think it's uh, you know, it's

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got estrogen elements. And but the research I've done and

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the information I've looked at, I've looked at nutrition facts

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dot org, which is doctor Gregor, Michael Gregor. He's great,

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all these guys that I follow, these doctors that are

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are well known and listed. Tofu is a it's a

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it's a it's it's it's a protective From what I understand,

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it's protective against cancer. Uh. You know, maybe the research

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you do will show something different, so you just got

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to wait and measure what you see out there. But

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but it's it's doing good by me. Well, let's talk

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about the grocery store. Okay. So one of the first

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things that I learned, I don't know, several years ago,

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was just stay in the perimeter, you know, stay where

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the fruits and the vegetables are, not the not the mark,

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not the which is the meat counter, and most of

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your processed foods are probably going to be on the

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interior of the grocery store. So a little bit more

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about that. It's true. I mean the best aile to

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stay in the is the produce atile. There are some

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good process I like Tite Hill one of my favorite

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processed dairy items because the ingredients are pretty clean. I

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don't like added oil in most of my foods that

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I eat. You know it's going to be there in

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some of the process foods, But so as far as

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the dairy isle is concerned, you know, it's still processed

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on the vegan side. But yeah, the produce stile, you

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can even try things you've never tried before and go, oh,

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this taste pretty good. Purple potatoes have you heard about.

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I just had purple potatoes for the first time, and

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I was because I was in a recipe that I

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was trying, and I was like, purple potatatoes. I've never

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had one them before, and they taste great. And there

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they were. Did you find that they tasted significant, remply

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different than potatoes and they're supposed to be I'm not

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a nutritionist, but look it up. They're supposedly better on

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the they make index. So purple potatoes something you may

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not have tried. Yeah, but there's all kinds of fun

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stuff in the protostyle, and it's all the way you follow,

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the way you prepare them, and there's I bought a

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couple of cookbooks, but you know, look online you'll find

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all kinds of options. Well, let's talk about some of

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those ingredients that people might know about. Let's start with

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like nutritional beast. Oh yeah, it yes, a couple of things,

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so nutritional youth. So one of the things when you

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when you started eating diet, someone might say to you, like,

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I'm going to this adds a little cheapy flavor to

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your vegetables or to matter you're making. Some people like

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it on popcorn. Don't expect cheese. It's not cheese. I've

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already run into this, yeah, because my husband's who's like

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tolerating this, and he said, well, this was most past

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like cheese. It sets you, well, yeah, I think it

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sets you out to thinking that it's going to be

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like cheese. So you don't like it. Right, if you

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don't have expectations and you're trying something new, you're like, oh,

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this adds a nice little something to food. Anyways, this

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is loaded with the vitamins. It's protein bike Gram's approtein

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for two tables foods. My thirty two year old son

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sprinkles it on everything and he loves it. And he's

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not vegan. He just loves this stuff. So it's a

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really good, healthy ingredient that you should consider when you

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transition to a platy's diet. There's no fat entity there,

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so it's a good one, really good one. Here's enough

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are interesting one. It's called black salt. And I had

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never heard of this. Call on my mock. I hope

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I say it right. Really again, call on the mock,

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Call on the mock. K A l A n A

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n A m A k two separate words. It's pink.

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and instead of using regular salt, put this on there,

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it gives it an eggy flavor. I have a little turma, egg, garlic, salts, veggies,

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I have veggies to everything, and you know, onions, mushrooms, yama.

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it'll it'll taste similar. Even though I don't expect eggs,

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Like I said, don't expect sheet, I don't expect rights. Yeah,

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what else I can see some other things over here

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at the table. So I brought some days. I've brought

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some things for trouble. Okay, we're going to do travel

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in just a minute. What about the dates there? So

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the days? This is fun. Dried fruit again, some people

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don't want to have to fruit because of the concentration

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of sugar. There's no added sugar to these. You could

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take it. Do this, trust me, it works. Take a day,

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cut it open and remove the pit. If there's a pit,

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of course, put either almond butter or peanut butter inside,

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thicker almond in the middle. Put it in your freezer

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if you want to drizzle a little chocolate on top.

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And I'm not kidding you like a Snickers far. I mean,

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it's not a Snickers Far. Don't expect a Snipers far,

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but you'll be pleasantly surprised to see. And the good

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thing about whole foods too, is that they're not as

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addicting and really quick. But yeah, you're trapped. This is

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one of my favorite books by Douglas Loyle and Alan Goldheamer.

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It talks about sugar, salt and fat and processed foods.

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They create an addictive quality. I used to have a

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terrible overeating problem when I was younger, and it's terrible,

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and I thought it was me. I thought I had

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no will power. I thought, you know, it was me.

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And the truth is it's the food. It's definitely the

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food and the companies that make processed foods, chips, cookies, crackers, whatever,

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no matter what you if you look on the legal

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and you you will most likely see sugar, salt, of fat.

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And that's why I believe you can't stop eating it,

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and why you buy another box and another box or whatever.

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Some people don't at to react just one exactly what

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is that lace potato chips or one other potato chips?

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You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, that you can't

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eat just one. Yeah, it's it's really horrible. And that's

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why we have such a big problem in this country.

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Maybe mostly in the country, but maybe in the world. Yeah.

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The most recent data was that one third, at least

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one third of the population in the United States is obese,

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which is crazy. So I know that the government officials

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that have just been uh passed with helping us live

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healthier are going to be talking. You're going to be

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hearing more about making healthier food choices. Right, So let's see,

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let's let's yes, let's we hope. So so let's talk

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about travel. Probably that's one of my biggest buggy boes.

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That is so hard. I'm betting it's going to have

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to do with pre planning. It does, but it's not difficult, okay, right,

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My favorite, which I do buy from Doctor Furman. Did

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I already read this? Now? You know that ready we

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were having a talk here and I'm going to help

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you try this, Okay. I keep these in my first

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because I travel a lot for work. I always have,

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and it's really difficult when you're on the go or

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when you're driving or on a plane to have something

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healthy to eat. So these are called G bombs. I'll

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just kind of hold it up a little closer. Doctor Freman.

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This is a chocolate peanut. But everyone, this is my favorite.

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You will not believe these ingredients. My again, my adult

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son I brought them when I went to visit them,

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and he's like, those are still good and I don't

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feel like eating more. You know, He's like, I can't

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believe there's no added sugar. There's no added sugar in this.

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I made with dates, organic peanuts. Doctor Freman's g Bomb blend,

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which is organic dates, organic spinach, organic kale or talk

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about when what's the gens? So if it dands for something,

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it does and you'll you'll read it in the Need

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to Live book. If you get that greens, Let's hope

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I get this off in my head. Greens, beans ins,

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gbo uh, mushrooms, mushrooms and then berry aries and the

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seed bomb. I think it's just je bomb. No, there's

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an enough. I'm going to forget what it is. But

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you can read the book and you'll find it out

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if she thinks that. But I want you to try

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to seriously. There's chocolate chips in here. Let the wealthy

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fie really just take them. I could just take it, yeah,

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I mean they taste really good. It's very creamy. Do

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you taste finis? No? I know, which is really neat?

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So this is something I do buy online. Isn't it good?

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So I keep those in my betters, I keep them

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in my purse and once I eat it, sometimes it's

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my part of my it's my breakfast because I'm not

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a big breakfast theater. But it holds me over that

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and probably one of the better isn't it good. Then

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this is another Furman thing. And the reason I like

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Furman's products is because they don't have to added oil

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or sugar. I can't say I've liked everything I've ordered,

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but I do like these. These are kale chips. So

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those of you who like potato chips that are trying

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to get rid of all that oil and junk, this

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just has organic kale water, rock cash us unfortified nutritional yeast,

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which we just talked about onions, solid organic apple cider, vinegar,

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and garlic powder. That's what's in here. So these are

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nice chips. I mean, they're really what you want to

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try to for you to chocolate chocolate chocolate that these

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are really good. He hasn't in different flavors. It's worth

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a try buying kale chips at the grocery store. A

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lot of them have tons of oil, but you might

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be able to find something like this. I just haven't

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so And then they kind of things these areducted at Googles.

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These two are making rest in peace. He passed away,

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but these are I take these on planes. They're sorry,

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I M doing this right. This is a flip piece soup.

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It's got a little packet inside of seasoning, so if

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you don't want as much salt, you can control it,

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which is really nice. I don't know why this one

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has sugar in it, but it does. So beware look

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at labels. Labels are when you do a vegan diet.

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Labels are so important. Some items have things like caseine

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and wigh protein and those kinds of things. Those are

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not vegan, like protein drinks and stuff, So do your homework.

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But these are really good. This is two hundred and

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fifty calories one gram of fad fifteen grams of protein. Wow,

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so be going to get your protein. I take these

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on planes. I asked the flight attendant to add some

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hot water. Yeah, and there you go. I did find

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this at Walmart. It doesn't say vegan, it says plant based.

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That the ingredients look good. But there's all kinds of

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things now that you can buy that are tasty and

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beacon and don't kill animals. So those are some ideas

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that bring produce, to bring some grapes, bring some blueberries

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if you can. Some things aren't just you know. I

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brought some blueberries on the playing ones and they go

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all squish. Yeah, blueberries are hard grapes are better. Grapes

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or apples. Trail Joe's. We don't have one here in

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Saint George, but Trader Joke has life apples that have

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some kind of I don't know if it's lemon juice

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or whatever that you know, they have a bag you

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can just take the whole thing with you and eat.

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So it's a lot of apples to eat though, when

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you know, you know, I need writing that. But nuts

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are such great, great options too, and cashews you can

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make good sauses if you have a vitamins or one

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of these. Yeah, what about let's see, I'm thinking about

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some other food ingredients, like we don't have one to show,

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but liquid amnas if you've ever heard of that? What

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is that? It's kind of like soy sauce. I believe

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00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:10.400
it's gluten free for people who have gluten free, but

459
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:12.400
do your own research. I know I keep saying that,

460
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.880
don't trust me on that. Do it yourself. But it

461
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.440
comes with in a spray and you could just spray

462
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:20.680
it on your food too, which is kind of nice.

463
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:24.480
It's similar to soys tastes like soy sauce and at

464
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:27.640
places aggriplace, and you had a good idea for egg

465
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.799
replaces I've never heard. Yeah, so if you're going to

466
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:34.440
bake something and like, I'll give you an example. I

467
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:36.559
love Trader Joe's, even though we don't have them here.

468
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.279
Every time I go to La or Vegas or whatever,

469
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:42.799
I go to Trader Joe's. They have a corn bread mix. Again,

470
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.400
it's not the healthiest thing. There's all kinds of ingredients

471
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.480
in there, but you can smash up at the namp

472
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:52.519
and it gives you that coagulated texture of an egg.

473
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:54.519
I think it's half a banana, but look it up.

474
00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:58.400
Half a banana to one egg. There's also a way

475
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:02.279
to make egg. You could use applesauce. You could use

476
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:06.920
flax seed with water. There is an egg replacer product.

477
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:08.759
It's a powder that you can add to water and

478
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:12.440
stirred up. It is a processed food, but there's all

479
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:16.480
kinds of options. If you're going into Google, Google's my friend.

480
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:18.880
I just love it. If you go into doctor Google.

481
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.160
If you go into Google and just put in you know,

482
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:27.440
vegan egg replacer, you'll get all kinds of stuff. Yeah.

483
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:34.079
So let's so the The title of this podcast is

484
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:38.000
the five Reasons why You Should go vegan this year.

485
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:42.680
So let's start going through those reasons. What would be

486
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:48.319
the top reason that you should consider this? So everybody

487
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.960
is different, and for me it's the animals. Okay. So

488
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:58.559
and there's some there's some documentaries out there, Yeah that

489
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:04.400
might convince you. I mean about you know, cattle about about,

490
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:09.480
bid about about the I have loved to go out

491
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:15.359
on deep sea like fishing boats off of the off

492
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:20.799
the coast of the Pacific Northwest. That's an education because

493
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:24.480
you've got fish that are released that I have been

494
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:28.480
in patcheries, that are then released into the ocean and

495
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:32.920
then they come back. And but yeah, I have noticed

496
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:37.480
that fish like the fish that I see in the

497
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:44.359
meat counter in the are colored insteads color added. And

498
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:49.039
I'm like, oh man, that's awful. Anyway, go for it.

499
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.400
This is one of my favorite books of all time.

500
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.759
It's called The World Peace Diet by Will Tuttle. It's

501
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:59.599
not a diet per se. It's not going to tell you, you know,

502
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:04.039
how to something. I actually met him after I read

503
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.880
the book and he's signed my book. But Will Tuttle,

504
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:12.000
but he goes over so eloquently and beautifully why a

505
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.720
vegan diet is so important. There are some disturbing things

506
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:17.759
in here. I'm not going to lie. I mean, obviously

507
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:21.079
when you're killing animals, when it has to do with

508
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:26.400
how animals are treated, animal cruelty. But the way he

509
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:29.799
writes is so beautiful and so eloquent. I highly recommend

510
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:33.680
this book. So that's my number one is it's cruel

511
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:37.240
it's the cruelty and the murder of the animals. My

512
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:40.119
number two, of course, is going to be health. I

513
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:45.799
am a cancer survivor seventeen years and to top it

514
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.680
off with ovarian cancer, which usually ask me what kind?

515
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:54.039
Usually people catch it late and I was super fortunate.

516
00:32:54.279 --> 00:33:00.640
No evidence I'm clean. But that's another reason why a

517
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:05.279
vegan diet for me, why I think it's it's so important.

518
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:13.559
I believe that eating meat and dairy and animal products.

519
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:17.000
I'm even wearing animal products, I don't think it's good

520
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:20.720
for our help, you know, just intuitively I feel that way.

521
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.200
But I also know that there are facts and information

522
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:29.640
out there that suggests that a vecan diet is a

523
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:32.599
very healthy way. Like I'm thinking of what can people

524
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:36.880
go look at, I'm thinking of the show called Forks

525
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:41.839
over Knives. That's why I brought the cookbook. Okay, well

526
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.240
I didn't know. I seriously did not. This is one

527
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.559
of my favorite cookbooks, Works of the Knights. But there

528
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.680
is a movie and they talk about that a lot.

529
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:55.920
There's all kinds of movies out there now that that

530
00:33:56.559 --> 00:34:00.400
I just can't help with them. But but there's lots

531
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:03.160
of documentaries. I patient, I think that there's a lot

532
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:05.799
more awareness. Don't you think that there's a lot more

533
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:10.480
awareness that just enough to be popping up And everything

534
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:13.280
that's happening recently just seems like we're going in that

535
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:19.440
direction to be healthier. So when I lived thirteen years ago,

536
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:23.960
people thought it was crazy are you literally and you're

537
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:27.239
a restaurants and think like what's that? Yeah? Again, and

538
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.440
it was really Now now it's easier, not here so

539
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:36.639
much although good, So okay, so that was so the

540
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.440
whole thing with animal cruelty is number one. Number two

541
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:42.960
is health health Number three well, and also I guess

542
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.880
number three could be longevity. There's that guy, oh, I

543
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.800
wish I could remember his saying. You may know he's

544
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:55.719
online or he has a documentary about centinnarians, people who

545
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.079
lived past one hundred. And there's the website that you

546
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:02.480
can actually go to that if you go past one hundred,

547
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:05.119
you can be on that you're Yeah, and there's more

548
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:09.719
and more people that are older than one hundred, and

549
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:13.079
then there are like hot spots around the world where

550
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:17.719
people that are living long lives are being studied. Seventh

551
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.320
Day Adventists. Yes, I think it's yes and not going

552
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:25.679
out No, California. Yeah, there's a California town. Trying to

553
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:30.920
remember what it is anyway, but yes, anyway, longevity, Yeah, longevity.

554
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:36.119
People think that a vegan diet is expensive. If you're

555
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.679
going to buy the processed foods, it's probably just as

556
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:42.599
expensive as maybe a little more. But if you find lentil,

557
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:46.920
I think these were less than two bucks. Yeah, you know,

558
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.400
it depends on what you buy. You buy produce. It's

559
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.920
you're not minding meats and cheese compared to meat and cheese. Yeah,

560
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:58.840
I mean, so I think it's it's budget friendly. That's

561
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:02.239
another reason people give me of being vegan is expensive.

562
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:06.639
Microcindo is not high trust me, right, and yours probably

563
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.400
isn't either. Well, No, I mean if I'm just walking

564
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:12.960
over to the corner to get some greens, yeah, and

565
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:17.079
it's about as fresh as it can be. Yeah, yeah. Okay,

566
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:26.360
so so that was an animal trilogy, health, longevity, budget, budget,

567
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:31.239
There's so many reasons, but I feel like it brings

568
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:35.440
me peace. I feel like I feel right with myself.

569
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:39.719
The environment, yeah that really should be on the list,

570
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:42.079
But I feel like it brings me peace. I feel

571
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.079
like when I first went to begin it was for

572
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.760
the animals, but then I learned so much more of

573
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:49.599
the World Peace diet. That book will we'll help this

574
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:53.280
speaking about I mean, don't you think that, like having

575
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:58.440
this thing in the corner is environmentally good for the

576
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:04.639
interior of this home? I would think so oxygen, Yeah maybe, yeah,

577
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:09.440
I thought about that before. Yeah, yeah, so the environment.

578
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.480
But also being I give you six reasons feeling right

579
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.519
with your son, I really think that there's something that

580
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:19.719
I feel like. I feel like I glow inside more

581
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:21.599
than I ever did before, because I feel like I

582
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.360
may just feeling I could. I feel like I made

583
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:27.199
a good decision and I can feel it all the

584
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:31.559
way to my core. Right. Okay, So let's talk a

585
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.800
little bit more about restaurants. If you're going out to eat,

586
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.920
what's the biggest thing you think that people should do well.

587
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.599
I always like to research the restaurant ahead of time. Yeah,

588
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:47.199
my core friends, you know, they always ask me where

589
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:51.199
should we eat? Or hey, Bicky, let's go ki they

590
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:55.360
have a vegan option and I'm not a big I know,

591
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:58.559
I'm a worker eater, or like, can't you make any

592
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:03.039
You could guess if they have lettuce, if they have beans,

593
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:07.440
you know. But oftentimes there's something on the menu, like

594
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.280
some kind of bowl. I always like it when they

595
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:14.480
have a bowl like with vegetables and rice, brown rice preferably.

596
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:18.800
But but call ahead sometimes they you know, and I

597
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:21.559
have to say, restaurants lose my business and the friends

598
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:26.760
my friend's business when when I call and they they're like, oh,

599
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:28.559
we have nothing, and I look on their menu and

600
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.159
I see they have stuff. Sure, they just they just

601
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:32.639
need to know how to put it together. I think

602
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:34.679
it's getting better at right, but I think it's still tough.

603
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.079
So colahead ahead of time. Look at the menu online.

604
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:42.000
Sometimes there's already a vegan you know, it's labeled vegan,

605
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:45.239
and so you don't have to call, but look and

606
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.760
see what their sides are. Is there something you can have?

607
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:51.599
And oh, but I do want to say one of

608
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:53.880
the best meals I ever had was at a restaurant

609
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:56.599
where there was no vegan options, but the chef. It

610
00:38:56.679 --> 00:39:00.280
was a nice restaurant. The chef cook something up I

611
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.400
think it was polenta, and he did something with it

612
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:06.679
that was out of this world. Out here, there's a

613
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:09.400
restaurant I hope they still have it called Painted Pony.

614
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.719
They don't even put they have a beat Regoli. They

615
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:15.760
don't even put it on their menu. I l ask

616
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:19.320
because they don't want to sell out, so when the

617
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:24.440
vegans come in they can't have anything. But they really

618
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:26.760
and every time I went there. I have a book club.

619
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:29.599
We would meet there, and every time I would ask them,

620
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:31.760
if you guys come up with another option for me,

621
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:33.239
because all I would be able to get is a

622
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:36.000
salad and modify it, you know, don't put the cheese

623
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:39.760
on or whatever. And they were either listening to me

624
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:42.639
or somebody else, but they came up with a really

625
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:46.079
good option. So well, we're going to have to wrap

626
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:52.039
up now. But if someone was saying, you've overwhelmed me today.

627
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:55.119
It's so much information, But what would be the one thing?

628
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.760
What would be where would somebody start would it like

629
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:00.119
one of these books? Would there be one of the

630
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:02.199
books that would be the best thing to start with.

631
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:06.320
So sounded like I think it was that this one.

632
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.800
So doctor Neil Barnard came out with this book, The

633
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:12.639
Vegan Storter Kid. I think you can go online and

634
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:16.159
find information too, but it's a hard thing to do

635
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:18.920
in the beginning because you don't know what you're doing,

636
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.199
and if the whole family's not doing it, it's really hard.

637
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:26.480
That's something I'm dealing with. I've got a Meat and

638
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:32.159
Potato's husband. Yeah, but he's coming around by ipslow. The

639
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:33.960
other thing you could do, she's going to have my

640
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.239
You're going to put my contact information on And I

641
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.599
don't mind answering questions. I don't do this for a living.

642
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:44.320
It's a it's a passion of mine. Maybe one day

643
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.280
I'll decide to, but right now I'd rather just make

644
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:50.280
it a passion. So I'd be happy to answer any

645
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:54.719
questions or you know, possibly provide some kind of support

646
00:40:54.840 --> 00:41:00.760
with ideas, restaurants, recipe, books, recipes, what you feel free

647
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.119
to reach to? Reach out to me, Mike, can I

648
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:06.400
sing what my email? Yeah? It's vegan vic V E

649
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:08.960
G A N V I c K which is the

650
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:12.719
Aton dot com. Feel free to reach out to me

651
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.280
and I'd be happy to respond. And the other thing

652
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:17.880
I'll all mentioned is because I'm sitting here looking at

653
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:22.280
my power garden in the background. There I found somebody

654
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.679
who does a lot of training of all the little

655
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:29.119
little things that help you have a successful hydroponic garden.

656
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:31.400
I'm going to have him on as a guest the

657
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:35.639
not too distant future, so be looking for that episode

658
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:39.679
that will be fun to do. So our time is

659
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:42.760
the maybe, beloved, I was worried we wouldn't have enough time,

660
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:48.039
oh enough to win so fast. So thank you so

661
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:51.400
much for joining us today, and I hope that we

662
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:55.440
helped you ask big questions about how to live a

663
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:01.400
healthier life and have that vegan lifestyle well don't regarded

664
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:04.440
in your life. Thanks so much for joining us.

665
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:11.440
Today's episode is over, but we did ask good questions again,

666
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:15.199
didn't We don't miss out as we broadcast live every

667
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:19.199
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668
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:23.239
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669
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:28.079
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670
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:32.719
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671
00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:36.000
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